The order of the sections is mostly in the order of discovery while I researched
Save to buy a crossover, hatchback or van. A van would be vehicle of choice if I'm going to build a house, good for car camping, etc. Or sports car and cargo trailer?
Porsche cayenne with manual transmission is really heavy at 4900 lb. BMW i3?
Below links to find the lightest vehicles:
https://www.auto-tests.com/en/lightest-weight/Crossover/all/
https://insideevs.com/news/527966/electric-cars-from-heaviest-lightest/
Related sites:
Foreigners guide to buying a car in Peru, czickontheroad.com 2020
Buying a Vehicle in Peru, tripadvisor.com 2014
Improving Automobile Fuel Economy: New Standards, New Approaches, 1991 (PDF)
Aerodynamics, weight, and engine efficiency are elements of gas mileage. The McLaren F1 with a 6 liter V12 engine, painstakingly made to be as light as possible, weighs 2500lbs. Aptera weighs 1800lbs. Lotus Elise weighs 1600lbs.
160 miles, at 20mpg is $50 worst case scenario (distance to Trujillo). I don't live in Venezuela with 6 cents a gallon. For the same reason I should upgrade the solar water heater, to spend $50 less per month on electricity.
Smaller vehicles with tiny engines have better gas mileage, but I don't want something super tiny, because:
I'd prefer to have an electric vehicle, and set up a solar array to charge the car. But there are no electric charging stations in Peru.
While keeping aerodynamics for fuel efficiency.
I don't necessarily want to get in the business of transporting all the locals. Very few people if at all.
Perhaps a cargo trailer is key for the occasional need for a lot of cargo. I don't always need huge extra space.
Vehicles with a lot of body overhang in front or behind the tires look disgusting and have a tough time going over any obstacle.
If I avoid body overhang, I don't need much ground clearance. I can add a little ground clearance with larger tires or a small lift kit. I won't be going off-road. The need for clearance on even poor gravel roads isn't that much.
“Most sedan vehicles generally have an average ground clearance between 4-6 inches whereas SUVs average between 6-8 inches.” 4wheeldriveguide.com Off-road for sport vehicles need 8-10 inches.
Update: After having to do some river crossings during rainy season, maybe some extra ground clearance would be nice.
El Niño rainy season came and there were many water crossings required, and gravel roads became a nightmare. Although extreme El Niños occur once every 10 years, and non-extreme every 2 to 7 years, I think extreme weather will be the norm as the climate worsens.
A paved road is supposed to be built between Niepos and Oyotun, but no plans for a gravel road to Udima yet. Also with government corruption and instability, construction of the paved road has a lot of uncertainty.
Mandatory:
Good Qualities:
I think a sideways rear seat or middle seat can be fashioned for the Aptera. With the solar panels, the fuel efficiency would be the best. I would likely never have to charge it, as even on long trips I prefer to stay a while at every stop. There will be tow capacity. International delivery in 2023/2024.
For shopping travel to nearby cities, I can use a trailer for large items. Aptera FAQ says: “We hope to make a tow package available at some point in the future. We envision Aptera could tow a small lightweight trailer for camping, maybe even adding some extra solar capability.”
A trailer and cargo should not weigh more than the Aptera: “The tow vehicle should weigh close to as much as the trailer and horses combined.” doubletrailers.com
The Aptera weighs 1800 lbs. A flatbed utility trailer weighs 700 lbs, and a small enclosed trailer weighs 1000 lbs. They can carry 1000 lbs. The following video goes on and on to come to the same towing capacity conclusion of about 2000 lb:
Weight in front of the trailer axle adds to traction on the rear wheel of the Aptera.
A flatbed trailer offers less security than an enclosed trailer but is less prone to sidewinds and more versatile and cheaper. Cargo nets and tarps for rain.
Even if an enclosed trailer would weigh more and be less efficient, my application may be to leave contents in the trailer at a cochera while I stay in the hotel. Alternatively, with a flatbed trailer I can save big item purchases for the last day, and drive directly from the store to my house like a normal person.
The downside to the Aptera is that they made a hump along the floorboard dividing the seats. Supposedly for structural reasons, but I suspect they could have worked around that, and the real reason is to keep the Aptera from having 3 comfortable seats in the front.
They could have made the steering wheel be in the middle, which would have also simplified manufacturing left and right hand drive cars (like for England). The McLaren F1 has this. Alternatively, they could have done as with the Matra Murena and added a middle seat that can fold down to be an armrest:
Looking at the following video, the seats aren't that wide and the space between the seats isn't either. Removing the center console and adding a cushion seat and a pillow backrest would allow three non-fat adults to sit, but in a cramped manner like the back seat of a compact car. Doable but not for more than an hour without a break.
Video: Aptera seat movement, cargo space, airbags
I think it wouldn't be impossible for someone to fit in the middle:
There really is no space behind the seat unless you slide the seat forward:
Instead of having a perfectly flat cargo floor, could they have a ridge along the center for the wheel/suspension. Too much wasted space?
I think they would capture more buyers if they made the aptera body a little wider and longer, without increasing the width between the front wheels.
Although that may affect the turning radius, unless they decrease the length of the front wheel airfoils.
Instead of external wheels, they could design integral wheel wells with flexible outer body panels for turning. The front wheels are internal, but with a continuous aerodynamic shell for the body. Like this but not so dull looking:
So I doubt I'll get the Aptera. I'll shop around for whatever is used. Eventually I will want an electric vehicle, but there isn't anything used in Peru. As of 2021 there's like 3000 electric vehicles in all of Peru. There are absolutely no charging stations. I'll get an old gasoline car and save on depreciation, even though used cars are much more expensive here than in USA.
I'm no longer sure if ability to tow is a requirement for me. I reorganized the specifications to reflect this. I can appropriate what I need for house building when the time comes. Though I really dislike FWD, so I think I will veer away from it regardless.
My ideal seems to be RWD, as it is less complex than AWD. Though I wouldn't be disappointed with AWD because of the coolness factor and the added grip on gravel roads.
The ideal car seems to be like the Hyundai Veloster:
What's lacking with the Veloster is RWD/AWD. The Veloster is FWD.
Also, the Veloster doesn't have suicide doors
“Unlike its front-wheel-drive forebears, the Veloster N ETCR is rear-wheel-drive, with its electric motor mounted ahead of the rear axle to technically make it mid-engined.” thedrive.com. The Veloster N ETCR is unfortunately not a production car.
“The Hyundai Veloster N will not return for the 2023 model year, the company announced today. Hyundai said the decision is due to the introduction of the Elantra N and Kona N.” caranddriver.com. More on wikipedia
The Veloster is like an extended version of the 1988-1991 Honda CRX, which is also FWD.
The Toyota Yaris has an AWD option, but it's too small.
Dimensional comparison between Veloster and Yaris
Yaris wheelbase is 2550 mm, and height is 1470mm with ground clearance of 145mm. Overall length is 3940mm.
Veloster wheelbase is 2650mm, and height is 1400mm with ground clearance of 140mm. Overall length is 4220mm.
Porsche Cayenne height 1700mm, width 1928mm. Overall length is 4782mm.
The Nissan Juke concept car excellent. The production car looks terrible:
Only the concept car that led to the Juke had suicide doors:
The Juke got bigger with newer model years. I think there's a 2011-2014, a 2015-2018, and a 2019 (see carbuyer.co.uk review). The 2019 was significantly bigger though 50 lbs lighter (see Wikipedia).
Unfortunately, the Juke with AWD is only available with a CVT automatic transmission. See also. I think this is also true for the Fiat 500x.
The Mazda MX-30 has suicide doors, but it's an electric vehicle with poor range, and started selling in 2020.
The Mazda 3 with a 2.0 liter engine gets 30/40 mpg. 40mpg highway is among the best according to caranddriver.com.
The Porsche Macan is out because no manual transmission is offered.
Curb weight be damned, a 2006 Porsche Cayenne V6 may be the best deal? Only the rich in Peru can afford them and their bad gas mileage, and the rich want to sell an older car and get a new one. The main obstacle is that Porsches with manual transmissions are very rare.
Doug Demuro review of 2009 Porsche Cayenne GTS V8 naturally aspirated manual
carfax.com (link requires USA VPN) has ads starting at $7K for Porsche Cayenne with ~200km odometer readings. Will the prices be comparable in Peru?
It's not like I would drive it daily, so I could afford to pay more for gasoline on occasion? I can also modify the engine to run on compressed natural gas to reduce fuel cost. See section below on CNG.
Porsche has parts available in Lima:
https://www.porsche.com/latin-america-en/_peru_/aboutporsche/importers/
https://dealer.porsche.com/pe/lima
Also a lot of Porsche parts are rebadged VW parts, which can be had for a lesser price.
I have this idea that Porsche would make its cars from superior materials. For example, the suspension would have less inertial mass to provide superior ground traction. Better performance engineering. Toyota, by contrast, may be more focused on longevity. However, this idea is not a solid conclusion. Would I be getting aluminum or titanium suspension arms instead of heavier cast iron?
The articles are not really conclusive, so I ask this question on Quora: Are Porsche suspensions made from lighter materials like titanium, carbon fiber, magnesium, etc., than other less expensive cars?
fcpeuro and edmunds.com have images of Porsche Cayenne suspensions, but don't mention materials. fcpeuro.com does say the body and suspension are overbuilt.
“On the rear axle of the Cayenne and Cayenne S, Porsche is continuing to fit a multi-link suspension with lightweight steel links and steel springs as standard.” porsche.de
For a reciprocating internal combustion engine, my ideal for engine simplicity would have:
There are overhead cam OHC and overhead valve OHV engines. Each has pros and cons. See article by axleaddict.com.
I like a 6 cylinder because it runs more smoothly than a 4 banger. I'd rather have low and mid range torque of SOHC (see video). Which engine provides the greatest area under the curve for torque vs rpm?
The video says SOHC provides higher torque at low and mid range RPM due to lower valve train mass. Is this because of using less valves per cylinder? What adds more mass with equal number of valves per cylinder: rocker arms or the additional camshaft?
Maybe adding VTECH would allow VVT and variable valve lift on the 2 valve per cylinder SOHC engine?
It's too bad the Wankel rotary engine didn't further develop and go mainstream, as I think it would be superior to any reciprocating engine. As a bonus, Wankels run great on hydrogen, which works well for going off-grid. However, the future now lays in electric vehicles.
An independent suspension has the benefit of not having a beam across the bottom of the car at the height of the center of the wheels. Case in point, solid rear axles, but can also be the case with torsion beam suspensions.
The lowly torsion beam suspension can be a simple and effective option for application in sports cars or passenger cars where there isn't a lot of wheel travel. Sports cars have strong roll bars which produces the same effect that a simpler torsion beam does, although with less ability to fine tune how the wheels move.
For a smoother ride over rough terrain, tire pressure can be reduced:
Google search will produce many results saying not to drop tire pressure below 20 PSI. Mostly, bead lock wheels are needed when dropping below 12-16 PSI to keep the tires from coming off the rims.
“A narrower rim will retain the tire bead at low pressure better than a wider rim. This better retention is because the tire bulges out more with a narrower rim. A 35×12.50R15 tire on a 15×8 rim could use a pressure as low as 10 psi on a typical trail rig without the tire coming off the wheel.” 4wheelparts.com
Factors To Determine Air Pressure On The Trail, 4wheelparts.com
The softness of the ride also depends on the tires ability to deform. Soft sidewalls and more flexible belt plies helps with this? Read Basic Tire Tech, Bill Ansell 2008
Kai in Tinkerer's Adventure thinks narrower tires perform better off-road. The longer instead of wider tire contact patch of a narrower tire is able to “caterpillar track” over deformities.
Kai does an experiment on same height tires on the same rims (including same rim width), with the only difference being the tire width.
Kai shows that for a particular brand of radial tire, the contact patch is rounded and isn't even the full width of the tire until about 5 PSI. Furthermore, at the same tire pressure, the contact patch area is the same regardless of width. Which should be obvious that pressure X area should equal the weight of the vehicle.
I think a wider tire should be run at a lower pressure, so that the contact patch area is relative to the tire width. This lower pressure would allow greater tire deformation. The question is, at what low pressure does tire come off the bead? Isn't that pressure lower for a wider tire on the same width rim?
In the video comments, Sarel Harmse writes: “The tire strength and sideways movement on a thin tire is also more and de-beading is more of a problem at the same pressure than with thicker tires.”
My conclusion is that I will want to stick as much volume of tire as I can into a mostly unmodified suspension, then run a lower tire pressure for a softer ride quality.
A portable air pump can inflate tires when transitioning from rough terrain to highway.
In Peru you can get liquified gas at gas stations. The cost per mile for liquified gas is less. You can convert the engine to run on either gas or gasoline with the flip of a switch while driving.
“A diferencia de la gasolina, hay un ahorro significativo. Por ejemplo, por cada 100 kilómetros que se recorre con un auto que emplea gasohol de 95, un ciudadano debe gastar un aproximado de S/ 64; mientras que con gasohol de 90, S/ 57,08 y con diésel, S/ 44,90. En el caso de GLP, le demanda al usuario desembolsar S/ 33,26.” larepublica.pe
So it's about half the cost per mile to use natural gas instead of gasoline.
Gasoline engines modified to use CNG are not ideal CNG engines. CNG is not injected into the cylinders. On carbureted engines and engines modified to run on CNG, the natural gas will use up more volume than a liquid like gasoline, and the amount of oxygen reaching the cylinder is less.
Because better mixing takes place between air and natural gas, there is a more complete combustion. This is one reason a CNG engine runs hotter. Also, the evaporation of gasoline has a cooling effect. There are other factors for hotter temperatures using CNG:
Due to the higher heating value and higher density, combustion of CNG produces a comparatively large amount of heat than the gasoline combustion. Thus, operating CNG as an alternative fuel for gasoline engines causes engine overheating problems. This could affect the engine components, shortens the lifespan of the engine components and also cause pre-ignition in the combustion chamber. Engine cooling system is most essential for both industrial and automotive engines to reduce fuel consumption, minimizing exhaust and fuel emission, to reduce the thermal load on the engine to protect the engine components. Thus, synthetic coolants were used in the present work to study their influence on controlling the temperature. From the results and discussion, it is obvious that synthetic coolants help to bring down the temperature compare to pure water cooling. However, the 20% blend of ethylene glycol with water has slightly better and smoother temperature curves when the engine is operated at higher RPMs for longer durations. Thereby, it is suggested to use synthetic coolants for dual-fuel engines as it can help to control the temperature and can prevent the engine overheating. Thermal analysis of natural gas as an alternative fuel for gasoline engine, Ravichandra et al 2020
So the engine will run hot unless using a synthetic coolant. But no one uses water! Cars always have synthetic coolant! I guess that study is valuable because some synthetic coolants are better than others.
Further reading:
Carfolio section is huge so click to expand
carfolio.com
Wow, this site rocks.
Related sites:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/spt_rwd_manual_cars
The only vehicle I can have with the following mra6 specifications is a 1962 Chevrolet Corvair Station Wagon (flat 6 OHV).
There are plenty of vehicles without the 6 cylinder criteria: mra specifications. Upon applying the filters “SUV, minivan, or hatchback” to the mra specifications, the remaining vehicles are 4 cylinders. Although this likely has more to do with the incomplete nature of the carfolio database.
SUV (the only one): 1979 Gurgel X-12 (flat 4 OHV)
Minivan (the only one): 1960 Volkswagen Microbus de Luxe (flat 4 OHV)
Hatchback (the only one): 1981 Volkswagen Igala/Brasilia (flat 4 OHV). The other car on that page, the Daihatsu Fellow, was water cooled according to other sources.
Let's add to the mra specifications: mra2no specifications:
4-Door Sedan (the most modern one): 1996 Tatra 613/700 (V8 DOHC)
Coupe (the most modern one): 1998 Porsche 911 (flat 6 DOHC), 1995 Porsche 911 (flat 6 SOHC)
1972 Volkswagen SP2 (flat 4 OHV)
1970 Puma GTE (flat 4 OHV)
1966 Fitch Phoenix (flat 6 OHV)
1959 Enzmann 506 (flat 4 OHV)
Switching to AWD maa2n specifications, and not including the Porsche 911:
1969 Steyr-Puch Haflinger 700 AP (flat 2 OHV)
1986 Volkswagen Caravelle/Microbus syncro (flat 4 OHV)
Removing the air cooling requirement yields hundreds of results, listed below as either:
year make model (engine configuration)
years-of-vehicles make (most recent engine configuration)
1977 Datsun 280Z (L6 SOHC)
1984 Toyota Celica GTS (L4 SOHC)
1986-1988 Pontiac Fiero GT (V6 OHV)
1985 Toyota MR2 (L4 SOHC)
2000 MR2 spyder convertible, though not 2 valve per cylinder:
1984 Isdera Imperator (V8 SOHC)
2011 Vauxhall VXR8 GTS (V8 OHV)
2010 Hindustan Ambassador 1800 (L4 SOHC)
2009 Ford Mustang V6 (SOHC)
2000 TVR Cerbera (V8 SOHC)
2002 Toyota Condor (L4 SOHC)
1993 Volvo 240 Wagon (L4 SOHC)
2002 Daihatsu Midget (L3 SOHC)
2012 Tata Nano (L2 SOHC)
…continuing with the above vehicle list for mr2no specifications:
Hatchbacks:
1976 Alpine A310 (V6 SOHC)
1982 AMC Spirit (L6 OHV undersquare 0.96)
1984 Alfa Romeo GTV6 (V6 SOHC)
1977 AMC Pacer (L6 OHV)
1977 AMC Gremlin (L6 OHV)
1977 AMC Hornet (V8 OHV)
Mid Engine:
1969 AMC AMX/3 (V8 OHV)
1969 Ford GT40 (V8 OHV))
1990 De Tomaso Pantera (V8 OHV, later models DOHC)
Coupe:
1974 AMC Javelin (V8 OHV)
The rest of 2010-2020 models are supercars:
2016 VLF Force 1 (V10 OHV)
2013 Vencer Sarthe (V8 OHV)
2011-1974 Vaz (L4 SOHC undersquare 0.99)
2012 SRT Viper (V10 OHV)
2017 Sin R1 (V8 OHV)
2017 Panoz Avezzano (V8 OHV)
2015-1930 Morgan (V2 OHV square 1.00)
2011-1988 HSV (V8 OHV)
2016-1948 Holden (V8 OHV)
2019-1960 Ginetta (V6,V8 OHV or straight 4 OHC)
2013-2011 Fahlke (V8 OHV)
The rest of 2000-2009:
2000 Ultima GTR (V8 OHV)
Spadaconcept (V8 OHV)
Smart (L3 SOHC undersquare 0.88)
2000 Saleen S7 (V8 OHV)
2009 Rapier SL-C Superlite Coupé (V8 OHV)
Pontiac (V8 OHV)
2009 Perana Z-One (V8 OHV)
Mosler (V8 OHV)
MG (2003 V8 SOHC square 1.0, 1993 V8 OHV, 1977 L4 OHV undersquare 0.9)
Marcos (V8 OHV, V6 OHV, L6 OHV, V4 OHV, L4 OHV)
2003 Mahindra Bolero (L4 OHV)
2006 Jeep Liberty (V6 SOHC)
2007 Holland Car (L4 SOHC)
Ford Mustang (2008 V6 SOHC, 2004 V8 SOHC square 1.00, 2004 V6 OHV, 1995 V8 OHV, 1993 L4 SOHC)
Ford (2001 V8 OHV, 1999 L6 OHV undersquare 0.93)
2005 Faralli & Mazzanti Antas V8 GT (V8 DOHC)
–> why dohc with 2 valves per cylinder?
2004 Elfin MS8 Streamliner (V8 OHV)
2009 Devon GTX (V10 OHV)
Caterham (L4 SOHC)
Cadillac (V8 OHV, V6 OHV)
Bristol (V10 OHV)
The rest of 1990-1999:
Tofas
Premier
Peugeot
Paykan
Opel Opel
Oda undersquare 0.99
Nissan
Mercedes-Benz
Jaguar
Gurgel
FSO undersquare 0.94
Ford
De Tomaso
Daewoo square 1.00
Chevrolet
BMW
Bitter
Aymesa
Aston Martin
Alfa Romeo undersquare (only sedans)
AC
Complicating this list is that different model years and different countries have different options, with newer models less frequently having manual transmissions. For USA models there is carmax.com used car search. I can also check vehicle specs at https://autoevolution.com.
Hatchbacks with at least RWD (or AWD), manual transmission:
SUVs with AWD, manual transmission:
Minivans with RWD, manual transmission:
SUVs with AWD, but only with automatic transmission:
Specifications V1 still apply, but I'll try a different angle, that's easier to remember.
A Datsun 280Z or Nissan 350Z would be perfect except I need more seats and cargo. I guess what I really want is a sports car with small rear seats and SOME cargo space. A trailer for when more cargo is needed.
Better handling of 350Z: https://www.drifted.com/350z-vs-370z/
Although Doug Demuro thinks the handling is great on both the 350z and 370z.
More comparison photos at pakwheels.com
Someone managed to put custom rear seats in a 350Z: instagram my350z.com image tiktok
350Z skeleton
370Z full interior tour, although 370 has shorter wheelbase.
The EPA interior volume states: 58.5 cubic feet for the 370Z 50.5 cubic feet for the 350Z
The 350Z is longer, taller, but less wide.
Could it be that if you strip out everything behind the seats in both cars, the 350Z has more interior volume? my350z.com quora.com
Removing the strut tower cross member for added space and visibility? my350z.com thatbluezguy, youtube.com
The ECU can be mapped for fuel efficiency, although I haven't found anyone reporting much mpg gains, except for someone that needed an ECU reset. Most highway runs on 6th gear get 30mpg.
Instead of money being first priority, let me choose my favorites, with high aerodynamics, low weight, cramped rear seats, and 2 suitcases of cargo space.
The goal is 3 passengers, 2 large suitcases, 2 small suitcases. I measured a large suitcase, and it's 4.7 cubic feet. Having a free rear seat would allow 2 large suitcases standing behind the passenger seat if it is slid forward. That leaves the hatch/trunk/frunk for the smaller suitcases.
1990s:
2000s hotcars:
2010-2022 quora:
Hatchbacks:
Update:
List of countries by vehicles per capita, wikipedia
Leading light-duty vehicle brands in Peru in 2021, by market share, statista.com
It's kinda funny that my choices are so limited. Searching for something around 5K USD is near impossible. Yes, used car prices are inflated here, but it's not only that.
Does no one sell their old cars??? People keep their cars rather than sell them and get something new? Have I not found a good venue for used car sales on the net? Walking around Chiclayo, I don't see much of older cars. Maybe I need to walk in different boroughs? Maybe all the used cars are in Lima?
Maybe most car sales happened in the last 15 years:
Source is carsalesbase.com. Also see theglobaleconomy.com. The only data I find starts at 2005, and my guess is that previous years had even lesser sales especially since the GDP per Capita by year mirrors the sales:
I saw the following interesting vehicles on the streets (click to expand)
Hyundai Tucson
Hyundai santa fe
hyundai accent
hyundai i20
Chevy Captiva
chevy n300 move, n400 move
hgatour v53 foton
baic x35
Renault duster
Toyota rav4
ssangyong rodius, others
haval h2
kia sonet
jeep grand Cherokee
cherry tiggo2 (aka tiggo3) tiggo8 tiggo5
chevy groove
sportage
joycar sx6
Mitsubishi Montero sport
nissan cashqai/rogue
nissan kicks
seat leon
toyota rush
renault kwid
ford territory titanium
daewoo van
changan cs15
suzuki grand nomade
glory 560
glory 580
Mitsubishi asx
suzuki apv
chevy groove
nissan x-trail
jettour x70
vw t-cross
chevy tracker (aka chevy trax) independent rear suspension
Jac S2
Jac JS3 (S3)
Soueast dx3
Geely gx3
MG 20ST
Great Wall M4
Baic X35 Beijing
Brilliance V3
I saw the following in classifieds:
All brick7 site ads are archived with no contact information. Sites cari.pe, trovit.com.pe, roodos.pe, and mitula.pe point to ads on other sites. I don't know if some of the lower prices are real. Many of the “available” are really old ads.
1983 alfa romeo gtv clasf.pe
1981 toyota celica 5K soles mercadolibre 2022-03
1980 ford mustang 2K USD evisos 2022-05
2006 toyota rav4 2.5K USD tixuz 2022-10
1996 subaru impreza 2.5K USD doplim 2022-08
1998 mitsubishi asx 2.8K USD autopia 2022-04
1998 ford fiesta 13K soles mercadolibre 2022-04
2004 porsche cayenne (automatic) 3.5K USD evisos 2022-11
2004 audi tt 4K USD evisos 2022-05
2001 nissan x-trail 4K USD autopia 2022-06
2001 subaru impreza ej20 17K soles facebook
1995 subaru impreza 4.8K USD evisos 2022-07
2014 subaru impreza 5.4K USD cuidad anuncios 2022-01
2008 nissan tiida fwd? awd? 5.5K USD autopia 2022-09
2006 daihatsu terios 6K USD autopia 2021-11
1997 kia sportage 6.5K USD mercadolibre 2022-10
2009 suzuki swift 6.5K USD carros
2002 nissan x-trail 25.5K soles facebook
2001 audi a3 7.2K autopia 2021-10
2010 ssangyong actyon 7.8K USD neoauto
2013 suzuki swift 7.8K USD carros
201? subaru impreza 36K soles facebook
2020 renault kwid 9.2K USD wikipedia tixuz
2011 subaru xv 46K soles facebook
2015 chevy tracker 12.8K USD facebook
2016 mazda zx5 awd 19.5K soles facebook
2012 bmw 130i 15K USD facebook
1986 ford mustang 3.1K soles brick7
2005 porsche cayenne 12K soles brick7
2005 alfa romeo gtv 12K soles brick7
2002 subaru impreza 15.7K soles evisos
1982 alfa romeo gtv 4.3K USD brick7
2008 porsche cayenne 23.5K soles brick7
2006 porsche cayenne 25K soles brick7
2013 porsche cayman 26.1K soles brick7
1982 alfa romeo gtv 7.8K USD brick7
1987 volkswagon minivan 4.5K USD roodos
2011 hafei minyi minivan 18.5K soles mercadolibre
2012 suzuki apv 25.5K soles facebook tel:918706918
2015 lifan foison minivan 6.3K USD neoauto
2017 chevy n200 minivan 6.2K USD neoauto
2010 toyota rav4 13.9K soles mercadolibre
2017 hyundai creta 56.9K soles facebook
1998 toyota celica st202 8K USD evisos
2019 renault kwid 8K USD pe.tixuz.com
2013 seat ibiza 7.5K USD neoauto
2010 suzuki sx4 32K soles facebook
2014 mazda 3 10.5K USD neoauto
2017 mazda cx3 65K soles facebook
2016 mini countryman 16.9K USD facebook
2015 mazda cx5 facebook
China’s Abandoned, Obsolete Electric Cars Are Piling Up in Cities, bloomberg.com 202308
The range of older electric vehicles isn't stellar, which is likely why they aren't wanted, and why I too am hesitant given the lack of charging stations in Peru. Maybe I can take along solar panels for emergency use?
The batteries on these vehicles should be sold for use in solar powered homes. More modern batteries could be fit into them.
Does the surplus of electric vehicles in China show up as good bargains on Alibaba?
Xpeng G3 520i alibaba
Dongfeng EX1 Nano Box
byd yuan plus 510km alibaba
I want a sports car, but an SUV is more practical. An AWD Subaru SUV would be practical. A sports car with a lift kit and large diameter tires for offroad would be badass, like this 240Z rally racer (no rear seats):
370Z rally car (no rear seats):
I could do this to a Celica GT4 AWD (image below), if they weren't impossible to find.
Porsche 944 with lift kit:
Porsche 944 rear seat legroom. Maybe just as much as the 350Z rear seat hack.
While my budget is about 14K USD, I'd rather spend much less to have money for the future, but if there's something I really like I can spend the full budget.
The third generation 2008-2011 Subaru Impreza looks nicer than newer Impreza models. See motortrend images.
Subaru started making an offroad version of the Impreza in 2013, and called it the Crosstrek. Can a 2008-2011 Impreza be converted to a 2013-2017 Crosstrek/XV with suspension parts from a junkyard? Redditors use lift kits. Below a lifted 2012-2016 Subaru Impreza.
3rd generation lift video Stock ground clearance is 6.3 inches
4th generation lift video
Stock 2013 Subaru Crosstrek below. They mess up the clean lines with tacky fender flares below. Removing them reveals a recess in the body panels, at least on the 2020 model.
Facebook Marketplace is the about the only place to shop for a used car. There is more variety in Vehicles List V2, but the AWD versions are very rare so I didn't find any for the list below. Since Facebook Marketplace search is so poor, I had to look through almost a thousand ads to create the list below!
Old Cars
1980 toyota celica (sra2) 9K soles facebook trujillo
1975 datsun sedan (irs) 9K soles facebook trujillo
1981 amc spirit amx (automatic, sra) 10K soles facebook juanjui, san martín
1982 toyota corola 10.5K soles facebook chiclayo
1983 mazda rx7 12.5K soles facebook lamas, san martin
1984 toyota celica supra 6.8K USD facebook lima
Subaru Impreza/XV
2008 subaru impreza 2.0L 27K soles facebook rioja, san martin
2008 subaru impreza 2.0L 30K soles facebook trujillo
2008 subaru impreza 2.0L racing facebook andahuaylas, apurimac
exp 2009 subaru impreza 2.0L red 25K soles facebook facebook lima exp
2008 subaru impreza 1.5L fender flares 25.5K soles facebook lima
2008 subaru impreza 1.5L (automatic) 27K soles facebook lima
2011 subaru xv 8.9K USD facebook lima
exp 2010 subaru xv 9K USD facebook lima exp
2014 subaru xv 48K soles facebookfacebook chiclayo
Sports Cars
porsche 944 project 15K soles facebook trujillo
nr 2004 audi tt 4K USD evisos nr
nr 2015 porsche 911 30K soles evisos lima nr
1983 porsche 944 9.9K USD facebook lima
nr 2006 nissan 350Z 12K USD facebook lima nr
2004 nissan 350Z 12.5K USD facebook chiclayo
1995 mitsubishi 3000 gt 15K USD facebook lima
SUVs
nr 2019 volvo xc90 7K USD evisos piura nr
2008 ssang actyon 30K soles facebook chiclayo
2006 bmw x3 150km 9K USD facebook trujillo
2012 mazda cx5 48K soles facebook trujillo
porsche cayenne s (automatic) 13.5K USD facebook lima
BMW 1 Series
2013 bmw 130i 56km 13K USD facebook lima
2012 bmw 130i 99km 13K USD facebookfacebook lima
2014 bmw 114i 14.7K USD facebook chiclayo
2014 bmw 114i 67km 15K USD facebook chiclayo
nr 2014 bmw 114i 63km 51.5K soles 11K USD facebook facebook facebook trujillo nr
nr 2014 bmw 114i 13.6K USD facebook facebook trujillo nr
Already covered above, but not in one place.
* have backseats
Doug Score
Doug Scores are very much Doug and no one else.
22 | Porsche Cayman GT4S | 67 |
18 | Jaguar I-Pace | 66 |
14 | Ferrari FF | 66 |
21 | Jaguar F-Type | 63 |
23 | Nissan Z | 62 |
21 | Toyota Supra | 62 |
20 | Toyota Supra | 60 |
19 | Hyundai Veloster N | 58 |
94 | Supra Turbo | 57 |
17 | Nissan 370Z | 55 |
98 | Subaru Impreza 22B | 54 |
04 | Subaru Impreza WRX STI | 54 |
04 | Nissan 350Z | 53 |
07 | Pontiac Solstice | 52 |
94 | Mazda RX7 | 52 |
01 | Toyota MR2 Spyder | 45 |
87 | Pontiac Fiero GT | 42 |
69 | BMW Isetta | 25 (lowest) |
Also can consider some Jaguar and Lexus, Lotus models like the Elise, more of the BMW Z series, and 4th gen+ Toyota Supra. Plus the VW SP2, the Puma, and the Phoenix from the carfolio section above. These I need to view more to know if they should go in the list. I am overwhelmed.
Some designs like the new Corvette are sexy supercars. To me the body has extraneous volumes that seem like wasted space. They look awesome but I wouldn't want to own one.
Some cars have bodies that look too elongated. Older Corvettes, if they were shrunk in length would look nicer and similar to the Pontiac Solstice. The Celica 6th gen is a little long, but the backseats are nice.
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